At the time of this interview, Robert Logan was the principal of Hugh M. Cummings High School in Burlington, NC. He responds to the interviewers' checklist of questions, describing his practices as a supervisor, his involvement in instruction, disciplinary practices, transportation, and building upkeep. Logan also manages to share more of his views on race and education than do other interviewees in this series. He reflects on the unkept promises of desegregation, and what he experiences as the steady decline of opportunities for black administrators and the rise in racism since a brief period of balance. He received job offers only at schools in crisis as his white counterparts took prestigious positions. This interview offers some insights into the role of race in modern education and the way in which huge issues like race and desegregation mesh with smaller ones, like administrative problems, to create frustrating challenges for educators.